Cohesion Inc
www.cohesioninc.net
Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
COHESION INC - THINK MANAGEMENT/VICTORIAN MANAGEMENT/EXCEL ENTERPRISES???
I have been looking for a job in the sales and marketing industry over the past 3 years since graduating from Western. I have interviewed at Excel enterprises, TEM, Victorian Management, Vector, Zone Marketing, American Life Insurance, SEM, DBC, Think Management, Cohesion, Altair Business Consulting, and a few years ago I interviewed with Grand Marketing. I recently have been contacted by a few of these companies and did a google search only to see COHESION pop up. I did a little research, and I have noticed that the same people who were on this Cohesion INC glassdoor page, have also been showing up with other companies in Grand Rapids. 2 of the same guys who show up on the pictures are also in the pictures for Victorian Management, and now Altair Business Consulting. I also recognize one of the guys in the pictures who now works at Excel. I don't know if these companies are all apart of another larger company or what exactly is going on. Some of these companies have been willing to do in depth interviews highlighting what they actually do and other companies seem to be hiding things. I now know anytime there is a group interview it means its time for me to leave. Some of these companies appear to be more legit than others. Some of these companies write their own positive reviews, as well as negative reviews for other companies. TAKE EVERYTHING WITH A GRAIN OF SALT AND DON'T BELIEVE ALL THE HYPE!!!!
Loss:
$100
Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Door to Door Sales
Exactly as the title states. This is a door to door sales company who pays in Commision. No reimbursement for gas, no guaranteed pay, nothing. I'd stay away if I were you. I showed up for a first interview, they were pleased and invited me back for a second interview while promising lunch. Lunch turned out to be coffee that I paid for myself. Although the staff was extremely friendly I couldnt bringyself to work for such a company, especially when they could have been upfront with me prior about the job. If you want door to door sales selling ATT junk this is the job for you. I declined their offer.
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Anonymous
Kalamazoo, Michigan
THIS COMPANY IS NOW ZONE MARKETING
This company has once again changed their name to Zone Marketing due to a bad reputation. Saw their ads pop up on Craigslist and in the pictures were the same people that I worked with for a day at Cohesion..2 months ago. They have to constantly change their name because people like us come on these sites are show the world what they really are. They are a bunch of liars and scammers with an employee turnover rate higher than the disapproval rate for the GOP. Here is their "New" facebook page https://www.facebook.com/zonemarketing2012 They also have an Instagram and a new website now.. BE CAREFUL.
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Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Wouldnt leave my house
These *** people came to my door trying to sell me ATT U-verse. I have ATT's internet, but am happy and content with Comcast for my cable. I do not have a home phone and do not want one. I kept telling them im not interested, but they kept asking me questions about my cable and how many TV's I have and if I have HD ect and so forth. I told them again that I was not interested and they kept saying "It's not a big deal It'll just be a minute of your time" I don't know how many times this *** said this. It's already been a minute of my time! So this guy kept asking me questions and took up 15 minutes of my time just to give me a quote on how much it would be. And here's the thing.. IT WAS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN IM PAYING FOR COMCAST!
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Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Lies and Scams
It was just ridiculous how they lie to your face in an interview without even blinking. They tell you that you're applying for a "management" position and talk about how they represent many fortune 500 companies -- which isn't true, all they do is sell AT&T U-Verse door-to-door sales. They claim its lead based sales, WHICH IS ALSO A LIE, because that does NOT EXIST in door-to-door sales. So I show up for my "second interview" where I'm told I go out with a manager, get lunch, and talk about the job. First off, I pay for my own lunch. Secondly, they just show me how to go door-to-door to sell people AT&T and annoy the *** out of people, even if they say no you're taught to "not take no for an answer". You will go back to the same house LITERALLY 4 times in one day, even if they keep saying no. You basically walk around the same 3 or 4 blocks of neighborhood and annoy the *** out of people for a good 8 hours. Don't get me wrong, you CAN make money doing this. It's completely commission based, however. If you want to sell AT&T door-to-door, this is absolutely the job for you. However, they are not up-front with you at all in the interviews. They basically ask what qualities YOU have to bring to a company that needs a "manager" when basically, all you are is a door-to-door sales person in a scam of a pyramid scheme. Be careful.
Loss:
$30
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Anonymous
Kalamazoo, Michigan
Lied to at Interview,
Cohesion Inc in Grand Rapids is nothing but door to door sales. This is not marketing, and the odds of you being promoted to anything above sales is slim to none. Even if you do get promoted, you're still going to be relying on sales for your income. 100% commission other than top level management (Scott) or during your training period. I was told at the interview that I would not be doing a majority of door to door sales because I applied for a management position, but guess what?! DOOR TO DOOR SALES! Now if that's what you want to do, Fine, good for you. But that's not the job I applied for and not the job I want. Also, they train you to not take no for an answer and do anything in your power to shove ATT U-verse down the throats of the customers. They'll teach you to deflect, the 4s, 5s, and 8s, and do anything in your power to get these people to buy. Please Cohesion be honest with your interviewees. No wonder your turnover ratio is so high.
Loss:
$100
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Jakie Qzk
Grand Rapids, Michigan
This place is a total scam and total waste of time
i'm pretty sure i interviewed with the same "manager" (jerry) a few months ago at another company called grand marketing. all of the same concept except a different office building and name. that screams scam to me. i was offered a job that night which is completely unrealistic in a real business practice. if you want to sell att uverse door to door and work under a pyramid scheme for 100% commission then this is the job for you! good luck on the interview. the $30 lost was in the gas i used wasting my time driving to grand rapids.
Loss:
$30
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Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Pyramid Scheme
Cohesion Inc is a Pyramid Scheme and it's owner Gerald is a slick talking *** man. Any and all success with his "company" is based on slinging AT&T door to door at 100% commission as well as favoritism. For example the first and only person promoted to "Manager" happens to be his girl-friend. Cohesion Inc is a scam that lures unsuspecting people in with half truths, whole lies, and promises of riches through hard work. Gerald is nothing more than a community college drop out and fast talker. He might pretend to be a "CEO" but he's running a pyramid scheme that takes advantage of others for his own gain. Cohesion will close soon.
Loss:
$800
Jolane Mha
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Management
Cohesion, Inc. 4095 Park East Ct. SE Grand Rapids, MI 49546 The following message is written by the management team at Cohesion, Inc. in response to some mixed reviews about our company. We would like to be very clear about exactly what it is our company does, as it is never our intention to mislead a potential candidate. This message should also paint a clear picture as to the type of candidates we are looking to invest in. Cohesion, Inc. is a company in Grand Rapids that is outsourced by AT&T to do the direct sales and marketing for AT&T’s U-Verse division. AT&T U-Verse is currently primarily a residential service, so we do not market to businesses, we market to residential customers. We do lead-based sales because the service is not available to everyone, even if they are in the same neighborhood, so it’s imperative that we follow only the leads that AT&T provides us. The majority of the customers we speak to have at least one AT&T service and are paying outdated rates for the old phone lines and DSL they have currently. With that being said, we focus on the retention of existing customers, as well as the acquisition of new customers, by consulting them on the best home entertainment situation to fit their lifestyle. A lot of times what will happen is a customer will go to an AT&T store, inquire about U-Verse on the internet, or call into AT&T with the intentions of signing up for the service; consequently, finding out they don’t qualify due to their address not being eligible for the service. Therefore, AT&T has had trouble targeting the percentage of people that do qualify for the U-VERSE service since people don’t respond to telemarketing or mass mailers, both of which only give a small return on investment (ROI) This is where Cohesion comes in. AT&T uses my company because we give them a 100% ROI. They pay my company/ representatives only when we bring them a new customer, which makes sense. In most cases, the representatives (Account Managers) are making more in commission than they would be getting paid in most entry-level sales positions. The main reason that people have an issue with the type of work that we do is because the entry level is not sexy or glamorous- it is merely an entry-level position. We want to develop people into management positions, and that is where we load up the position. Anything that has an opportunity associated with it has a weeding out process (look at any professional athlete, doctor –medical school, lawyer- law school). What we do not is hard, but if you want to succeed at our company you are going to work extremely hard. Going to talk to someone at their home about a product or service is not normally what people graduate college for, however, people do go to school to run businesses and hold management positions where they can ultimately have an impact on daily operations. We only ask that candidates go through the entry level first in order to be qualified to manage the business. How can you manage people that do sales if you have never done it? I know that we have all worked for people that were NOT qualified to be our bosses, so that’s why we only promote from within. So, if a person is WILLING to do what we do, they can get into management within a year with self perseverance and the help of our outstanding team. The goal of the company is to put a person into a management position within a year. I tell candidates exactly what they have to do to get promoted. I do this because AT&T would much rather have 5 offices selling their product than just 1, and 10 offices rather than 5, and they are going to pay me a bonus to promote a manager to represent them on a much larger scale. So, even if I were a selfish person, I would still want to promote managers because I’m incentivized to do so. The pay is performance based, however there is paid training, because we understand there has to be a time where the person is compensated based on their effort, rather than their performance if they are not versed in the product knowledge or our systems. A business brings in revenue based on the productivity of that business; therefore, if the business isn’t productive, then it doesn’t profit. A business is comprised of people, so if the people aren’t productive, then that business does not bring in revenue. If the business doesn’t bring in revenue, then it won’t be able to pay its employees, and that’s why some of the largest companies are laying people off. So, 1 of 2 things has to happen: 1) Either we pay a salary and make you hit a certain quota every week, and if you don’t, then we fire you (which there is an option for a base + commission), or, 2) You get paid based on your performance and there is no quota, therefore; you have job security as long as you can pay your bills (this is determined by a person’s work ethic). In the nature of sales and marketing, it’s all about the law of averages, so the more contacts a person makes, the more people they will be able to help out. Everything averages out over time, so even if a person does not make a sale in a day (which happens occasionally), the chances of them not helping anyone for the week are slim to none (unless they are either not working, or learning to balance a new skill set because there is an adjustment period). Whenever you think of door-2-door sales, you think of a slimy person that wants to sell someone something that they don’t want or need. If you look at our website and Facebook page, the people that we work with are sharp, motivated, ambitious people with great character, who come from great personal and scholastic backgrounds, who want more out of their workplace than the normal 9-5 for 30 years. EITHER YOU PAY NOW AND PLAY LATER, OR YOU PLAY NOW AND PAY LATER, BUT EITHER WAY YOU ARE GOING TO PAY. We just chose the former. AT&T is widely known and already in 80% of the homes that we speak to, so it’s not like we are selling knives or vacuums (there is nothing wrong with that either, if that’s what you want to do). Some of the most successful people started off doing direct sales or they currently endorse it, such as Mark Cuban or Donald Trump. I don’t have a problem with someone not working with my company because they are not willing to do what we do, but for someone to call what I do a scam, that is inaccurate; That’s where I have to tell my side of the story. I was told once that “opportunity is usually missed because it’s dressed in workman’s clothing.” This is the case especially in my business. Think about it this way, why would AT&T work with us since January if we didn’t bring quality results for them and if my business is a scam? We know we won’t make everyone happy, so we don’t try. We just want to be the best possible in life and business. We will do this by doing right with the people who have trusted us with their careers, and the chips will fall as they may. We judge other people based on their actions, but we want others to judge us based on our intentions. If we all seek first to understand, and then be understood, then our lives will be more fulfilling and impactful.
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Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
My thoughts on this so called scam.....
Honestly the position was not for me I would have to commute from Kalamazoo everyday, However. I suggest having an open mind about this company. After meeting with management there is no mystery to why they are successful. Even with all the things you people write about the company they still flourish, and people with credited degrees from prestigious schools currently work there ... And surprise surprise they do well! I went for the whole interview process and spent time with a "Leader" in there office who graduated with a 4 year degree and does this "scam of a job" as you will call it, after a nice long day with them I was very open to the idea. However it is commission, but the reps who do well in training pay there bills and excel..... The reason to write this... I brought the bad reviews up in my 2nd interview. They addressed all the comments and said its good these are online because if you read some of the reviews people misspelled words and are more angry at the fact that others are benefiting off of a position not only they wont do but cant. In closing, Its a different road, just because its not your road don't be so judgmental, also Ive learned after this experience you cant take advice from critics who never sit through a movie ;) Get the facts yourself and the same people who believe this slander would probably also believe anything they see and hear on t.v.
Loss:
$25
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Anonymous
Cohesion, Inc. - Formerly Grand Marketing - Grand Marketing, Inc. in Grand Rapids, MI is not what it
This is to inform anyone looking for a job at Cohesion, Inc. of what they are getting in to. Cohesion, Inc. was previously Grand Marketing, Inc. Same people, same scam. Read the comments of people who all have the same experience: http://grand-marketing.pissedconsumer.com/grand- /> From supplied link: "I applied for a "Sports minded" entry level position for this new sales and marketing firm in Grand Rapids, MI. I was told the owner Taylor typically manages the interviewing process, but he was out of town so a woman by the name of Alicia Key interviewed me over the phone. After a few quick questions, she proceeded to give me a very general overview of the company...how they worked with fortune 500 companies...how they worked face to face with their clients...how these were services that were desired by the client. Alicia had told me to wear flats, no heels, as I was going to be on my feet and that one of their top sales account managers. ALL of the positions they are hiring for led you to a meeting at their office suite in Grand Rapids with a group of other interviewees. They called me out into the hallway where they introduced me to a young man who was one of these "managers." He leads me down the stairs and out into the parking lot to his car. I'm thinking a group of us are going to jump in..but no, I was dumb enough to stay in the car. He SPEEDS off and casually shows me a list of addresses...,.residential addresses?. I eventually get out of him that they go door to door unannounced trying to sell people U-verse from AT&T!. I get back to my car highly irritated'. For the owner Taylor: be direct about the details of the job;. I searched the Internet to find some dirt about this job before I went to the interview THREE hours from my house but this company is a very new company, founded just last year, and there was nothing:. And DO NOT think its a wise idea to get your potential employees (mainly female potential employees) to get into a car alone with someone they spoke two words to beforehand,. The job is 100 percent commission based, with "opportunities for advancement" that really means a year later you can be an account manager?. The manager I was to follow informed me that as a manager you still are completely relying on those sales for salary, but you get to enter numbers into the system! WOOO! WASTE OF TIME!!!"
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Anonymous
Grand Rapids, Michigan
Scam selling dreams but im not buying
Some idiot took me out on a second round interview for a managment training program. He had a nice charger or somthing but i know mommy and daddy pay for it because there is no way a kid like that could afford it. It was just akward the entire time. All he kept talking about was the opertunity which was cool and all but i was more comfortable than he was on the interview. Shouldnt it be the other way around? In the end it was door to door sales which he himself couldnt even tell me. Isnt it proper to answer a question directly when someone asks you a direct question? All said and done these people are just trying to sell the dream so if you like working all day everyday with no real profestional career. Cohesion ink is the place for you. By the way lead based sales dont exist in the door to door industry. Or it wouldnt mean you have to go to 50 doors a day to get one sale for $50. Job seekers beware! Address 4095 Park East Court Grand Rapids, MI 49546 Tel: 616 940-**** E-mail hr@***.net
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Skyline Ohio in Blue Ash OH, is a Cydcor office. Beware.
These type of companies, whether its selling AT&T, Verizon, coupon books, vacuum cleaners, alarm systems, knockoff perfume, DirecTv, knife sets, etc, they are all soul-sucking jobs. There are literally thousands of these type companies, most do not last very long and none of them are honest about what the job entails.
Their ads make you believe you will get base pay plus commission. They make you think you will really be a marketing professional in a nice office somewhere, and not out in all kinds of weather, knocking on strangers' doors. There is no base pay, it is 100% commission.
Again, like I said, there are a thousands of these offices all over the world, they are constantly hiring, like everyday, because they can't keep anyone. Once people find out what it is all about and that they are actually losing money and not making any, they split.